0.985646522515863 - Conversion scale between 360-day prophetic year and Gregorian calendar year (365.2425 days)

Links
Watch.Org - Christian News Reported from White House Focusing on Israel
Informative Reading - Four ‘blood-red’ total lunar eclipses will fall on Passover and Sukkot in 2014 and 2015, the same back-to-back occurrences at the time of 1492, 1948 and 1967 (Only the lunar eclipse on Sukkoth (The Feast of Tabernacles) 2015 is visible to Israel)

End Time Pilgrim (strongly post-tribulation rapture but lots of numbers without drifting into bible codes)
METONIC CYCLES and the 70th Week of Daniel

LayDownLife.net (7 years too early?)
The Shimittah Year Prophecy

FulfilledProphecy.Com (Forum; 7 years too early?)
View topic - Only a few more weeks until the rapture

PonderScripture.org / Truth Seekers (PDF)
Jubilee Cycle, The 10-11-2008.pdf (application/pdf Object)

InTheDays.com - 2008-09-07 - U.S. takes over Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac (Major sign of financial crisis)
2008 is the first year of the tribulation?; I don’t think the world is bad enough yet - Noah/Lot
Plus I think literally every full-willed human at any one instance should have the full conscious choice of Christ before a pre-tribulation rapture event occurs. If the rapture is post-tribulation, the I think the tribulation shouldn’t start until the entire Philadelphia church has died off of old age (baby boomers mostly) and leaves only the laodicean church.

Years
1948 Israel becomes a nation

1967 Jerusalem becomes part of Israel; Six-Day War; about the 2000 360-day year boundary from Jesus’s birth

2007-2008 A lot of people were expecting the rapture to occur in this time-frame with Christ’s return at 2014-2015

2008 Possible start-year for Daniel’s 70th-week as defined by 2550 Days between Feast of Trumpets on 1st year and Feast of Atonement on 7th year rule

2011 Possible start-year for Daniel’s 70th-week as defined by 2550 Days between Feast of Trumpets on 1st year and Feast of Atonement on 7th year

2012 Mayan Calendar doomsday year

2014 Possible start-year for Daniel’s 70th-week as defined by 2550 Days between Feast of Trumpets on 1st year and Feast of Atonement on 7th year

2015 is supposedly the 6000 360-day year mark from the year of creation (Some sites put this at 2014)

2015 is the start of the next Jubilee cycle - Return of Christ (post-trib rapture) or end of church age (pre-trib rapture)? (Some sites put this at 2014)

2022 is about the 75 360-day year boundary from birth of Israel (1948) - Start of the millennial rule by Christ (assuming pre-trib rapture)?
Can’t find much on this outside of Islamic prayers for the final destruction of Israel and America.

My Opinion
I think the rapture will occur sometime between 2012 and 2015 (if it is pre-trib) and the AntiChrist will be revealed, and the tribulation started at the end of 2014 or 2015, starting with the mass attack on Israel.   I think Barack Obama is the last, and worst image of the AntiChrist and America will be begining facist-like rule (with a socialist economy collapsing to depression due to the inability to finance sufficient debt another bailout after many before it) in the 2012-2015 range with the Obama civilian national security force (blackshirts derived from AmeriCorp / PeaceCorp) moved out of test (isolated towns) and into production.  Mass chaos and suffering (but still less than the tribulation) from mass unrest (from depression and currupt Obama blackshirts), widespread terror attacks (both domestic and foreign attackers), famine (from unrest/attacks/plague/martial law), and/or plague (terror or reckless science), and a nation and world ripe for acceptance of the anti-christ. For you Alex Jones and Iluminati people, I think the ‘illuminati conspirators’ are the forces of Satan and his Kingdom - Eph 6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world’s rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Obama Civilian National Security Force youTube links
Rip them while you can!
20 sec Speech segment on Obama Cvilian National Security Force

Has whole subset of speech (audio only)

Entire speech - subsection starts around 14:45, target segment about 16:30 to 17:00

Senator Obama’s “Civilian National Security Force” - propaganda dressed up with star wars rise of the galactic empire
I think Babylon 5 Seasons 2-5 with President Clark’s rise to dictatorship and NightWatch (Initial NightWatch Recruitment as part time spies / snitches at S02E16; replacement of law enforcement with NightWatch at episode S03E09; Martial Law at episode S03E10); may be a better reference guide than emporer palpatine in Star Wars.

Obama blackshirt youth (authenticity - real vs prank skit act - unknown)

The Second American Revolution (not pro-rioting)

Look out for the movie, Legion. It looks like satanic deception. The scheduled release date is 1/22/2010 ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=legion10.htm ).

This is the a leaked plot synopsis ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1038686/plotsummary ):
After a terrifying biblical apocalypse descends upon the world, a group of strangers stranded in a remote truck stop diner in the Southwest unwittingly become humanity’s last line of defense when they discover the diner’s young waitress is pregnant with the messiah.

If this rumor is true, you can munchkin right around utilizing P2P file sharing. Chinese internet censorship is very ineffective with P2P.

Plenty of ED2K links at my download page . You can also use the built-in search engine. Burn CDs and DVDs with chinese-language bible addons for e-sword and sword project, or just use the standalone .chm files. Burn audio bibles to CD or DVD! Burn the Jesus Film Project XVIDs to CD or convert them back to MPEG2 for DVDs!

If the chinese censors block audiotreasure.com (or you just don’t want to download individual mp3s chapter-by-chapter), I PowerShare a consolidated archive on the eDonkey P2P netowrk (ED2K link on my site or just search for ‘audio bible audiotreasure.com’. I also got DVDRips of the Jesus film project in multiple chinese dialects. There are 3 other users in the UK that are devoting lots of bandwidth, so you will get decent speed smuggling contraband bibles into China! Piracy is a menace in China. Lets exploit it to spread the word of God! Even if it has to be the street vendors selling copies of audio bibles for a buck. Or maybe a brave athlete or coach person can risk arrest and torture and hand out free bible CDs and DVDs. If you can’t get em’ on the plane, you can use the internet, and proxy sites or P2P or anti-TCP-reset software can bypass the censors.

[巨型彗星：撞击之后].Science.Channel.Super.Comet.After.The.Impact.WS.DSR.XviD-K4RM4.avi (eMule P2P filesharing ED2K link to download the entire discovery / Science channel show - TV-Rip)

I got an estimate from the Earth Impact Effects Program for this show. The show said that the comet’s velocity was 135,000+mph and it was 8 miles in size and its impact produced a 60 mile transient crater, 100 mile final crater, and at the end, the pool of lava was 125 miles and had an instant-incineration radius of 1000 miles (this computation had incineration out to about 1100 miles). I think the trumpet judgments in revelation chapter 8 (Christian Holy Bible) may be a similar impact of a smaller comet fragmented in two large chunks (2nd and 3rd trumpet) and the 3rd chunk shattered in tiny pieces (first trumpet). I’m not firm on that belief though. Just the best fit for a fairly ‘natural’ divine judgment phase of the tribulation.

Impact Effects

Match the Science Channel Super Comet Show

Robert Marcus, H. Jay Melosh, and Gareth Collins

Please note: the results below are estimates based on current (limited) understanding of the impact process and come with large uncertainties; they should be used with caution, particularly in the case of peculiar input parameters. All values are given to three significant figures but this does not reflect the precision of the estimate. For more information about the uncertainty associated with our calculations and a full discussion of this program, please refer to this article

Your Inputs:

Distance from Impact: 1625.00 km = 1009.12 miles

Projectile Diameter: 12875.00 m = 42230.00 ft = 8.00 miles

Projectile Density: 1000 kg/m³

Impact Velocity: 60.50 km/s = 37.57 miles/s

Impact Angle: 60 degrees

Target Density: 1000 kg/m³

Target Type: Liquid Water of depth 300.00 meters, over typical rock.

Energy:

Energy before atmospheric entry: 2.05 x 10²⁴ Joules = 4.89 x 10⁸ MegaTons TNT

The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth during the last 4 billion years is 5.4 x 10⁸years

Major Global Changes:

The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass.

The impact does not make a noticeable change in the Earth’s rotation period or the tilt of its axis.

The impact does not shift the Earth’s orbit noticeably.

Crater Dimensions:

What does this mean?

The crater opened in the water has a diameter of 160 km = 99.7 miles

For the crater formed in the seafloor:

Transient Crater Diameter: 96.6 km = 60 miles

Transient Crater Depth: 34.2 km = 21.2 miles

Final Crater Diameter: 176 km = 109 miles

Final Crater Depth: 1.4 km = 0.871 miles

Impact Effects

Mini 2km comet-fragment

with energy equalling 125% of that of 200,000 5-megaton nukes at recommended velocity (50 km/s instead of 60.5) and slightly shallower 45 angle into deeper ocean - 2nd trumpet)

Robert Marcus, H. Jay Melosh, and Gareth Collins

Please note: the results below are estimates based on current (limited) understanding of the impact process and come with large uncertainties; they should be used with caution, particularly in the case of peculiar input parameters. All values are given to three significant figures but this does not reflect the precision of the estimate. For more information about the uncertainty associated with our calculations and a full discussion of this program, please refer to this article

Your Inputs:

Distance from Impact: 400.00 km = 248.40 miles

Projectile Diameter: 2000.00 m = 6560.00 ft = 1.24 miles

Projectile Density: 1000 kg/m³

Impact Velocity: 50.00 km/s = 31.05 miles/s

Impact Angle: 45 degrees

Target Density: 1000 kg/m³

Target Type: Liquid Water of depth 1000.00 meters, over typical rock.

Energy:

Energy before atmospheric entry: 5.24 x 10²¹ Joules = 1.25 x 10⁶ MegaTons TNT

The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth during the last 4 billion years is 5.4 x 10⁶years

Major Global Changes:

The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass.

The impact does not make a noticeable change in the Earth’s rotation period or the tilt of its axis.

The impact does not shift the Earth’s orbit noticeably.

Crater Dimensions:

What does this mean?

The crater opened in the water has a diameter of 32.2 km = 20 miles

For the crater formed in the seafloor:

Transient Crater Diameter: 13.1 km = 8.11 miles

Transient Crater Depth: 4.62 km = 2.87 miles

Final Crater Diameter: 18.3 km = 11.4 miles

Final Crater Depth: 0.71 km = 0.441 miles

My church’s pastor thinks all the nuclear weapons of the world can and will completely obliterate planet earth (requires launch of entire USA and Russia arsenal - everybody else simply don’t have enough). I think at most all the nukes will scorch 99% of everything ‘on’ the earth. The nukes have a lot more destructive efficiency. plus military people no longer want warheads over 1.5 megatons and prefer 15-150 kilotons. Mega-Nukes (>5mt - Castle Bravo, Tsar Bomba) have too much of their energy go off into space and military people actually want all that destruction to stay in the lower atmosphere (troposphere / <40,000 ft), and hence the max desire of 150kt.

However, a comet of 2km (2km is more like a fragment of a broken-up comet) or more has 50% more kinetic energy than 200,000 5-megaton nuclear bombs (go to the Earth Impact Effects Program site and punch in 500 km distance from impact, 2000 meters impactor diameter, 1200 kg/m^3 impactor density, 50km/s impact velocity, 45 degrees impact angle). Not all the nukes in the world are 5MT. Most of america’s currently working nukes are tactical warheads to be dropped from planes or loaded on tactical cruise missles or several 50-150kt MIRVs mounted onto a single missile. And even at 50-150kt, the detonation from 100,000 tactical nukes (10 gigatons distributed across 100,000 points vs 1.5+ teratons from a single point) would still cause more destruction on the surface of the earth than a single-point blunt impact. But it doesn’t match a literal interpretation of the bible in my opinon.

A broken-up comet (with at least 2 fragments inact and the rest broken-up into small pieces; asteroids don’t break up as easily) is a very plausible possibility for the early trumpet-stage of the tribulation: 1st Trumpet - broken up pieces (not comet tail - that is dust); 2nd trumpet - first intact fragment into sea; 3rd trumpet - 2nd intact fragment onto land (possibly the amazon basin); 4th trumpet - impact-ejecta volcanic-winter with possible assistance from the Yellowstone caldera or other serious volcanism (impacts often stimulate volcanic activity). One or more limited nuclear exchanges could occur in the tribulation period though, particularly in the middle east (Israel, Pakistan, Iran in particular) and especially at the end-trib battle of armageddon. Bunch 100,000+ troops into a small place, and a air burst from a single Trident-2 MIRV warhead (50-150kt) can wipe them out (A full missile load could carpet-melt several million packed-in troops). Hopefully the rapture is really pre-trib. Nasty stuff.

Here’s two wikipedia articles, 1 livescience article (science-favored, religion-neutral), and 2 other links on ‘doomsday’ whether it is the tribulation or the last judgement.

The Greg Martin picture suggests a much shorter than calculated lifespan for the sun. It was not meant to be christian at all. But it is a possiblity for a (inner) solar-system-scale final judgment (Revelation 21:1, 2 Peter 3:10; the sun is a huge nuclear furnace). God could choose any method though. I think it will be universe-scale though. A Quantum singularity settling into earth’s core (planetary scale) and ‘total existance failure’ (Universe-scale; Highly improbable normally, but God can control all that probability stuff) are also ‘last-judgment’ possibilities.

Update 2007-06-21: Fixed Greg Martin Inevitable Link (Broke it when updating the pbase gallary)

Here’s some Trinity / Millennial view / Eschatology / Dispensation chart pictures that I got off of the internet. Three of them are redundant with another post but wanted to include them here anyway because I like them. The biggest, most complicated picture that mentions sheol (Abraham’s Bosem) / hades is from a page titled Where do we go when we die? (Bible verses quoted). It is pre-millienial but is egalitarian in regards to pre/mid/post trib rapture. I havn’t found strong, good-context, encyclopedic / literal bible support on determining when the rapture is to occur (just that it will, and the exact time is unknown) and whether there is going to be a separate, limited-visibility ‘coming 1.5′ for the sole purpose of rapturing the church. I still favor pre-trib rapture because it simply feels good, has a lot of indirect ‘credit-history’ type bible support (God bringing out the few righteous people before commencing with destructive judgement), and it is what i’ve been and being taught at church, but I feel that have to remain open-minded for any other possible scenario. I think there should be a better marker of the flow of the saved after the descent from heaven for the millenial rule to the new heaven/new earth. The dispensation diagrams are pre-trib rapture / pre-millennial. I don’t support amillennialism or postmillennialism at all. Clickable thumbnails (click to get full-size view):

As for the Trinity, I know two man-made concrete example and 1 biblical example. The biblical word is (I’m remembering somebody teaching me I didn’t get it from the Bible myself): Father=Thought / will that will cause the word to be spoken, Son=God’s word as it is being spoken, Holy Spirit=God’s spoken word spreading out in all directions. The concrete examples are Father=MainFrame or Power Plant, Son=Firewall / Router or Transformer / Power Conditioner, and Holy Spirit=The network / internet or power transmission lines. The two man-made examples make the trinity look like a system (godhead) / subsystem (trinity components) concept and is compatible with the picture. The biblical example is more ambigous but appears more like computing processing & output stages (the human brain is an organic analog neural-net computer) — Processing (thought, software crunching), Output (mouth, hand gestures, speakers, screen, NIC card, network gateway/router), Transmission (traveling light or sound waves, traveling electronic signals). This view doesn’t match the diagram picture well.

Update 2007-04-27 — Changed timeline chart change suggestion.

I’m exploring christian metal music. I found artisits I might like using the wikipedia as a guide. Of these, I found full discography archives for Mortification and Disciple. Found album archives for a few others. Other artists I found only individual MP3s. I couldn’t find anything for Echo Hollow (labelled as Thrash on wikipedia). I like Thrash, Groove, and Nu-Metal mostly and like Industria & progressive metal a little bit. If I like an artist enough, i’ll buy one or more legit albums. If i like one a really really alot (like Soulfly / Max Cavalera) I may buy the whole discography (likely at least 4-8 months from now). If it is half-chrisitan (mixed lyrics or fully christian but scripturally incorrect), then I will just remain content with Soulfly because many songs in his first 3 albums are half-christian (Primitive - FlyHigh is Soulfly’s only fully christian, not scripturally incorrect song). There are also two ‘not applicable’ people downloading biblical material. They may be people in high censorship countries using black-market connections (which often use hijacked but likely dormant IP addresses). I got my 3 Terabytes of external storage (actually 1.5 TB becuase of mirroring; 4 500 GB + 2 250 GB + 2 already-own 250 GB), so I’m scarfing down the rest of the Chuck Missler stuff also. I also have a total of 1280GB of portable laptop-drive storage - 4 x 160GB + 8 x 80GB of which 3 soon to be 5 80GB drives installed into a machine). I also got all my DVDs consolidated (a whopping 300GB!). There is also a lot of worldwide inter-continental diversity in the currently-uploading panel, including Iran, Viet Nam, and Serbia & Montenegro. Click on thumbnail for full 1600×1200 pic. Screenie taken 2007-04-20.

I’m sharing Chuck Smith’s (Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa) c2000 bible study sermon series. They don’t seem to be very attractive. An american downloaded about 150MB and quit. 2 brazillians appear to scarfing them down whole though. Hopefully they’ll keep seeding the files for a (long) while after finishing, maybe even perma-share them. Click on thumbnail for full 1600×1200 pic. Screenie taken 2007-04-06.

For most of 2007, at least 75% of people with chinese IP Addresses in my upload queue are requesting bible / christian material. I hope they keep it up. Get more of the word of god into the illegal but word-preaching house-churches rather than the worthless catholic deriviative denomination (the only legal christian denomination in China) that is flooded with false propaganda. Most of the traffic is probably well-off individuals thinking just like us americans though - getting commercial product for free - in this case the Dramatized NLT Bible on CD package that got indexed by VeryCD in late 2006. This screenie got lost in limbo for while but I found it and remembered about the week before last. Click on thumbnail for full 1600×1200 pic. Screenie taken 2007-03-19.

Chiese person downloading the great tongue-a-rama. A 2nd chinese person is downloading the Biiible.com ultimate collection in RTF (rich-text-format / Windows-Wordpad). Click on thumbnail for full 1600×1200 pic. Screenie taken 2007-03-19.

The King James Version of the Bible ( KJV / AV / Authorized Version ) IS Copyrighted, but only in the UK (United Kingdom — England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland). Crown Copyright is rejected in international treates (probably because it is ‘life of the british goverment + 50 years’) so it didn’t virally spread to the rest of the world. Plus the crown patent / copyright is probably not enforced much within the UK, at least for the KJV, at least with digital copying, general use, and quotation in print text.

The ultimate in a no-name site. Go to the home page and you cannot get to this translation comparison page. I found it via google This looks like a good comparison of translations. The whole directory is unlinked. But the server allows viewing of directories. So if you want to check out other stuff remove the ‘compare.htm’ from the url — http://www3.pei.sympatico.ca/reese.currie/topics/ . I havn’t read any of it yet though.

The comparison is simple. 12 often disputed or altered verses in 4 categories are compered: Integrity of the trinity (John 1:1-4, Zechariah 12:10, John 14:26 and Genesis 1:2), facets of repentace (Mark 1:15, Luke 24:45-47, Matthew 21:32, and 2 Timothy 2:25), not imposing ‘baptismal regeneration’ (Acts 2:38, Mark 1:4 and Romans 6:4), and the role of destiny in salvation (Acts 13:48). The translations are rated and commented by the integrity of these 12 verses. Translates that doctrinally distort or just mis-translate one or more verses get docked points. Only a perfect score is reccomended. Anything with less than a 50% score is considered garbage.

The recommended versions are ASV, ALT, KJV, LV, NASB, NKJV, and WEB. The KJV and ASV are marked ‘recommended with reservations’ because of the archaic elizibethian english. The ASV and WEB are fully public domain. The KJV is public domain everwhere but the UK. ALT, LV, and NKJV are copyrighted, but it is feasable to obtain permission for non-commercial, non-profit copying without royalties or excessive red-tape. The NASB is tyrannically copyrighted - expect legal red tape and/or payment of royalties if you care about being legal.

The not recommended but not throw-away books are the BBE, DRB, NIV, NLT, and NRSV. The BBE, NIV and NRSV are accused of at least some theological / doctrinal influence. The NLT is acquitted by the incompetancy (high standards here! which makes sense for the word of god) of the translaters. The DRB has two blemishes reported (83% score). NIV and NLT are tyrannically copyrighted. CEV, NWT (Jehova’s witness), and TEV are evaluated as ‘throw it in the garbage’.

The page was uploaded and/or modified 2004. Translations that I know well enough to know the name and were not reviewed are AMP, MSG, TNIV, ESV, ISV, NET, DARBY, NAB, KJV21, WBST, WNT, and YLT. I think the World English bible rocks. I vote for WEB. And the WEB is the only public domain (I would acept copyleft too) translation that is ‘highly recommended’ by this site, without reservation due to archaic english!

Uncyclopedia is supposed to be humorous. People are referred to Uncyclopedia when humorous noobs vandalize Wikipedia articles with non-encyclopedic humor, especially when it is genuinely funny. These are a little humorous but are more rebellion and rejection than anything else. It represents a chunk of the agnostic unbelievers. It may be good for witnessing strategy refinement.

The GOD v2.01 BETA section of the God Article IS funny and less blasphemous (but still somewhat is).

‘Church of God’ is actually many denominations that don’t even all belong to a single protestant demoninational category (pentacostal, baptist, evangilical etc). Wayne Blank attends a ‘Biblical Church of God’ which belongs to a denominational/belief group category called ‘Sabbatarian’. Seventh-Day Adventist belongs to this category also. ‘Church of Christ’ appears to be a single denomination and have nothing to do with ‘Church of God’. At the young adult’s ministry meeting last saturday, Churches of Christ was labelled ‘post-millenial’. They are actually ‘a-millenial’ with a few rogue (in reference to their denomination) pre-millenial congregations. I see little scruptural basis of amillenialism unless the interpretation is almost wholly symbolic. The fuffilment of prophecy on the messiah (Jesus) appears to me to be at least 2/3-3/4 (65-75%) literal with some symbolic (remaining 1/4-1/3 / 25-35%) due to the heavy use of metaphores. So I personally reject purely symbolic interpretations (Amillenial, postmillenial, mid-trib rapture premillenial are all primarily symbolic interpretation).

Calvary Chapel is wholly premillenial with pre-tribulation rapture. Fits really nice in the appropriate eschatological belief category in the ‘Summary of Christian eschatological differences’ wikipedia article. My teenage-years church, Christian Faith Fellowship (Middletown, NY) belongs to this category too. I would be clearly in this category if the BibleStudy.org and keyway.ca Online Bible Study site’s scripture backing were not as good as they are. Now I am in a confusion state between the ‘immediate heaven/hell afterlife; pre-tirbulation rapture; pre-millenialism’ vs ’soul-sleep until the first (christians) or second ressurection (no oppty to accept/reject christ); post-tribulation transfiguration-only (no rapture); premillenial’. Soul-Sllep / No Rapture / Ressurection-only doesn’t fit the big-4 millenial teaching categories. To make the confustion worse, neither Calvary Chapel nor CFF appear to pay much attention to people who never heard of christ (Ancient chinese; Mayas; pre-invasion Incas/aztecs). The Great White throne of judgement / 2nd ressurection seems completelly plausible for this group of people, considering that God doesn’t want anyone to perish, but just grabbing something from Ezekial or Isaiah and connecting it up doesn’t seem logically right, but then again, I’m not good at logic proofs (Brian Sugrim is though; I’m good at out-of-the box comparisons, combining/splicing/merging, and pattern-matching though).

Soul-sleep is supported by both Seventh-Day Adventists, and Jehova’s Witnesses. These two groups have a lot of other very un-scriptual or overly-symbolic beliefs. However, Wayne Blank (keyway.ca - Biblical Church of God), Kieth Hunt (articles in BibleStudy.org) and Garner Ted Armstrong (Biblestudy.org articles, witness/character blemished by sexual immorality though), also seem to be soul-sleep (psychopannychism; both 2nd coming & last judgement) post-trib ressurection-only no-rapture, and have demonstrade pretty good and in-context scrpture backing. Also, on a personal simulation, If I went to heaven immediately upon death (or got raptured), gotten spoiled by the paradise, and then have to be dragged back to this boring old drab earth, I’d probably be quite resistant in going back and would probably be quite stubborn without serious threat (jail, torture or serious flogging, death) or very strong peer pressure (best friend and everybody else I like wants to go assuming I successfuly develop much friendship). Many other lukewarm / low-obediance christians (probably 70-80% of all american christians though my church seems only 35-50% lukewarm which is a good influence on me) probably would also not like having to move back to earth after the tribulation ends. I’d actually be worse because I don’t follow VIPs, worse authority-figure VIPs unless I actually want to be friends with them, while many other lukewarms would eagerly follow a VIP that they hardly know).

I would like to resolve the confusion. Purely within the Bible, in a way that would satisfy even the worst proof-freek (excluding illegal logic faith-assumptions that the bible itself is 100% undeniably true) would be made to agree (things proven logically via proof and scientific method tend to not be disputed or confused as much), despite me being not good at proofs (and worse, I can be very content with ‘plausible’). I may be and may always be a lukewarm christian in terms of relationship and obediance, but at least I want more understanding of the word of god, though my motivation is primarily removing fear of the future via removing ignorance (my mother is the opposite - she prefers to be ignorant) and general intellectual greed (greed for knowledge). I also always have liked ’superpowers’ (Danial, Gospels, Acts; I like flight, beam weapons, shields, and telekinesis while Rick & Erik favored more brute-force fist-of-the-north-star style) and I liked the notion of being drunk under the holy spirit (CFF at camps or occasional post-service favoring mid-week; not Calvary Chapel; no dog barking or snake handling though; plenty of toungues and falling-back though). These two parts along with the ‘free-ride salvation’ system of the New testament are the 3 main reasons that I became a christian. But don’t try to use those to manipulate me into false teachings though. If it ain’t in the bible, then you have the burden of the proper application scientific method (no stopping at the hypothisis stage and being content with theories). And even then, If its too much work or suffering, I probably still won’t care. This probably does make me manipulatable via laziness (I only overcome laziness well with strong motivation, autistic-obsession or survival-instinct amplified motivation, or team/tandom-coupled motivations) , fear of change, and contentment which is probably what the devil uses on me now because it is what currently works, at least for pacification and negligence purposes. I probably should get better with that. The best leverage for me is passive-environmental (environmental role-model) and passive-direct (personal role-model) peer pressure by environments and/or people I respect. That’s my main motivation for going to church other than emotional & intellectual ammusement and freebie-pampering.

Here’s some Millenial view / dispensation chart pictures that I got off of the internet. The dispensation diagrams are pre-trib rapture / pre-millenial. Clickable thumbnails (click to get full-size view):

These are suggesting ressurection-only afterlife, all on earth, at the 2nd coming (1st ressurection; saints in Christ) and the post-millennial ‘white throne of judgment’ (2nd ressurection; all other dead). The ressurection involves a new heavenly body. No traditional hell. Only ‘grave’ and ‘lake of fire’. But Satan does exist. They are also ‘no rapture at all’. I checked the context of some of the bible citations (but not all) and they seem alright. There a lot of same-sentence book-jumping and the interpretations are a much more complicated (requiring more intellectual capacity), but still fairly literal interpretation.

In the “What will happen to me after I DIE? part 2 ” article, I checked some of the verse bible. Context seemed good, but some have a lot of inter-translation translation inconsistency. Lots of room for mistakes and decpetion with all this book jumping and translation inconsistency (especially with the OT books of the prophets), but I’m open to the fact that I may already be deceived by (likely unintentional) falseness. The references in the article are strictly KJV. Isaiah 65:20 is a big example of inter-translation inconsistency. There is a lot of further interpretation based on this inter-translation inconsistent verse.

I can’t really give an opinion. I’m still fairly immature in the word (Bible) and I don’t handle metaphor well and I can’t handle idioms much at all. And I haven’t listened to the Pastor’s Rapture series (4 audio CDs; master CD copy made in 1994) despite having already ripped the CDs and put them on eMule (eDonkey network client; P2P File Sharing; I use the MorphXT mod, which is optimized for uploading/releasing) and it having 2 complete uploads already (simple UL - total transfer/ file size) in 1 day (I released it yesterday and checked this morning), much better (in terms of uploaded bytes average per day) than my copyright legal audio bibles (FireFiIghters for Christ, AudioTreasure.com) and Chuck Smith (Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa) c2000 series Bible commentary sermons.

The church I go to now, Calvary Chapel Tri-City (Tempe, AZ), my ‘growing up’ (my mom making me go in late 1991 @16 to being saved in mid 1992 @17 to mid 1997 @ 22) church, Christian Faith Fellowship Family Church (Middletown, NY; formally downtown; now in a ‘detatched patch’ of Middletown next to the northeast block of surrounding suburban-sprawl with the majority of the congregation not from Middletown anymore and the old downtown building sold and/or abandoned), and also two web sites that I like, RaptureReady.com and Tribulation.com (Rapture Page) are all pre-trib rapture (Jeremy Higgens, appears to be the most supportive of the pre-trib rapture stuff I hear at the calvary tri-city church).

But then again, another site called ‘Daily Bible Study’ (keyway.ca), seems to be in agreement with the BibleStudy.org site.

But the above two fails to splice well with the ressurection and ascention into the heavens of the two witnesses or the snatching in the 3rd-to-last paragraph article Watch! article (unless the snatching context refers to the flood instead but that doesn’t make sense either):

These references, which I found myself (via study aids), involve Jesus ascending into heaven. I don’t know how relevant this is to the whole ‘rapture vs ressurection’ thing though.

Here are the bible references for Enoch and Elijah’s ascension into heaven. The BibleStudy.org site article “Where is Enoch and Elijah? Did God take them to heaven or did they die a natural death?” says they were merely transported elsewhere on the earth and died later. Acts 8:26-40 has Phillip being teleported by the spirit of the Lord (a dead-literal interpretation would have the method of teleportation similar to a ‘Wing of Wyvern’ or a ‘Return’ Spell in the Dragon Warrior 1-4 NES Games), but the the identification of teleportation and the destination was specified within the same 2-verse contextual block. Would they say the same with Jesus and the two witnesses - being teleported and then dieing naturally later without the specification of teleportation and teleport destination in the same contextual block of text?

There are concrete examples that correlate with the ‘pause’ between death and ressurection (christ return or great white throne) from science-fiction sources that puts a person into complete suspended animation or ‘cold-sleep’, whether CyroStasis (JasonX Movie; GURPS Bio-Tech) or NanoStasis (most other sources, especially GURPS Bio-Tech). Older sci-fi sources like 2001/2010 and Aliens just use ‘hibernation’ or ‘cold sleep’. The time in cyro or nano-stasis is literally a ‘blink of an eye’ for the sleeper between the start of stasis and the end of stasis. Stasis emulates death without actually killing the person in order to need hardly any life support (food, water, air, waste disposal), to the person. The sleeper may perceive maybe a few seconds for every decade of stasis, a dead person would perceive absolutely no time at all according to some insights from Ecclesiastes 9:5-10, as no conscious thought occurs within the grave. Even billions or even trillions of years of time passage will be a ‘blink of an eye’. According to the studies above, it will not be millions, billions, or trillions of years though in all the perception is the same.

For a basic and vague idea, but no means exact insight on our new ressuretcted bodies, watch the movie ‘Cocoon’ or play the game Alpha Centauri (Transcendance victory; transcend elite citizen) game (Firaxis games). If there is any conflict with the bible and the movie/game description, by all means use the bible’s description. These are just for insight for the ability to imagine it a bit. 1 Corinthians 15:35-58 gives some description. There are scatter description all over the gospels of angels in ‘dazzling clothes’ (which I don’t think are brightly colored conventional polyester or nylon dazzle cloth) suggests something like cocoon, but with the descriptions of the ressurected Jesus, especially with the holes in the hands and side suggest some form of shapechanging ability, but I need to study that better as the ‘dazzle’ is largely assigned to angels and the ‘ressurected’ that looks quite human is assigned to Jesus.

Now I really should listen to Pastor John Higgen’s Rapture CDs and see if he agrees with keyway.ca (Daily Bible Study) and BibleStudy.org , because he is pretty hardcore bible too and may actually agree. In all it is all so confusing.

Updated 2007-04-02 - Added two more bible references for Enoch’s Rapture

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I think the lifespan multiplier for Noah and before is x12 - and the 12 matches up with the 12 tribes of Israel pretty well. I made a chart with a range of possibilities between *8 and *16

I think *12 is the most sensible multiplier, when considering a 50/70/90 base aging bracket for aging rolls. 12 really matches up with the ‘12 tribes of Israel’. Also, the new theoretical maximum lifespan that humanity is to settle to is 120 (Genesis 6:3). 120*12=1,440, the theoretical pre-flood maximum lifespan. Slight pattern-match to the 144,000 in Revelation. 12*12*1000=144,000. 12*12*10=1,440.

The GURPS aging bracket may even be supposed to be 30/50/70 instead, considering the ability deterioration of modern-day professional athletes, and none of the pre-flood patriachs living past age 962 (81 if diveded by 12). I think I would alter GURPS rules to have a 30/50/70/90 bracket with the 30-49 bracket being rolled every other year (1/2 the frequency of the 50-69 bracket). GURPS Space 4th Edition (Alien Creation VI; Lifespan box; page 159) says that going by the billion heartbeat rule, Humans are only supposed to live 30 years. The section explains it off by applying a *2 modifier for intelligent tool-using species, or requireing non-tool using species to take a short Lifespan (1) disadvantage because GURPS balance rules centers on real-world humanity.

The biblestudy.org site has an exponential curve graphed to Y=487.78*e^(-0.0907*x) where X is the Generation offset and Y is the lifespan, and this curve has a correlation of .889 of the actual ages. It is for the line of Shem, the branch of Noah’s family tree that Jesus is a part of. The other two branches of Noah’s family tree (Japheth & Ham) may need new empirical coefficients for the graph equation, but their lifespans are not documented in the bible, probably because they are irrelevant for Moses and the Messiah.

GURPS digs up science and reduces it for average-intelligence individuals to have a very realistic and plausible, but usable gaming experience - They even got search warrents served for reality-checking their CyberPunk book by associating with hackers that are on the watchlist

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GURPS Basic Set: Campaigns — Age and Aging rules summary

Aging Rolls Start at age 50. Frequency: 1/year @ 50; 2/year (1/6mo) @ 70; 4/year (1/3mo) @ 90 (aging thresholds are 50/70/90). An aging roll consists of a roll of 3D6 vs your HT score (automatically 17 if you have longevity). Repeat the roll for each stat (ST, DX, HT, IQ). A failure reduces the stat by 1. A critical failure (roll of 17 or 18 normally; 18 only if modified HT is 17+; No chance if you have longevity) reduces the stat by 2. Any luck advantages (allow you to choose or re-do a roll each a certain number of times each adventure session) cannot be used on aging rolls.

Extended Lifspan doubles lifespan and subsequently the aging roll brackets and roll frequencies for each level (2^level; 2 Levels=4; 4 Levels=16). Extended Lifespan 4=16x. Roll every 16 years at 800, every 8 years at 1120, every 4 years at 1440. Short lifepsan has the reverse base-2 exponential effect.

Aging rolls are modified by [Medical TL]-3 (Stone Age TL0=-3; Roman TL2=-1; Industrial Revolution TL5=+2; Modern TL8=+5). Rolls are further modified by you fitness level (point costing advantage/disadvantage) — +2 for very fit, +1 for fit, 0 for normal, -1 for unfit, -2 for very unfit.

“Natural Death” occurs when any statistic reaches ‘0′.

I revised the fuzzy-logic cannon spectrum to not consider heretical ratings at all in the grey categories as I realized the the canon judgement line does not factor in ‘heretical’ ratings. Heretical ratings are now only factored into the three lowest (the most black) categories.

This resulted in only 3 books changing categories, all in the canon / non-canon grey-zones. James and II Peter were demoted from ‘Canon - Has Blemishes’ to ‘Canon - Grey-Zone’. Apocalypse of Peter was demoted from ‘Non-Canon - Grey-Zone’ to ‘Non-Canon - Rejected’. It is still based on the ??Cross Reference Table: Writings and Authorities??? table at ntcanon.org.

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Canon
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?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
The Ultimate (100%)
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Gospel according to Matthew
Gospel according to Luke
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Definitely Flawless (100%)
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Gospel according to Mark
Gospel according to John
Acts
Romans
I Corinthians
II Corinthians
Galatians
Ephesians
Philippians
Colossians
I Thessalonians
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Likely Flawless (100%)
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
II Thessalonians
I Timothy
II Timothy
Titus
Philemon
I Peter
I John
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Has Blemishes
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Hebrews (9/11 accepted - 82%; 0/11 Heretical))
Jude (8/9 Accepted - 89%; 0/9 Heretical))
Revelation of John (11/12 Accepted - 92%; 0/12 Heretical))
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Grey-Zone
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
James (5/8 Accepted - 63%; 0/8 Heretical))
II Peter (4/6 Accepted - 67%; 0/6 Heretical))
II John (5/8 accepted - 63%; 1/8 Heretical)
III John (4/7 accepted - 57%; 1/7 Heretical)

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Non-Cannon
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?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Grey-Zone
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
I Clement (3/4 accepted - 75%; 0/4 heretical)
Epistle of Barnabas (3/5 accepted - 60%; 0/5 heretical)
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Rejected
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Preaching of Peter (2/3 accepted - 67%; 1/3 heretical)
Didache (2/5 Accepted - 40%; 0/5 heretical)
Shepherd of Hermas (4/9 Accepted - 44%; 0/9 heretical)
Apocalypse of Peter (2/3 accepted - 67%; 0/3 heretical)
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Bad / May be Heretical
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Gospel of Truth (1/2 Accepted; 1/2 Heretical)
Gospel of the Egyptians (1/2 accepted; 1/2 heretical)
Gospel of the Hebrews (1/3 accepted; 0/3 heretical)
Traditions of Matthias (1/1 Accepted; 0/1 heretical)
Epistle to the Laodiceans (0/2 accepted; 0/2 heretical))
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Likely to be Heretical
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Gospel of the Twelve (0/1 Accepted; 1/1 Heretical)
Gospel of Peter (0/2 accepted; 1/2 heretical)
Acts of Andrew (0/1 Accepted; 1/1 Heretical)
Acts of Paul (0/3 Accepted; 1/3 Heretical)
Acts of John (0/1 Accepted; 1/1 Heretical)
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Definitly Heretical
?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a?a-
Gospel of Thomas (0/2 Accepted; 2/2 Heretical)
Gospel of Basilides (0/2 Accepted; 2/2 Heretical)
Gospel of Matthias (0/2 Accepted; 2/2 Heretical)

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Observed pattern of cannon:

It appears that the hard ??black or white??? line of judgement within the fuzzy logic spectrum for the NT cannon, within the scope of the table at the ntcannon.org site is:

So, basically, minimum of 51% ??yes votes??? with a minimum of 6 total votes. 4/6, 4/7, 5/8, 5/9, 6/10 = ??yes???; 3/3, 3/4, 4/5, 3/6, 3/7 = ??no???

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Description of group categories:

This one as diverse world representation - Asia, Africa, Oceana, Eastern Europe. 4 of them are downloading bible stuff of which 3 are piracy of copyrighted material — Tyndale NLT Audio Bible - Copyrighted, active lawyers, royalty-demanding, ‘Diet’ RIAA. I’ll be adding 2 copyright-legal audio bibles (800-1200MB) plus Chuck Smith’s Audio bible commentaries (5.2GB) when I get my new hard drives (4 500GB desktop drives in 2 mirrored pairs + 1 spare, 2 non-mirrored 160GB laptop drives) at the end of April (my Dell’s Hard drive is full of DVDs that I don’t have room for elsewhere). These 4 releases (KJV Audio Bible, WEB Audio Bible, Chuck Smith NT, Chuck Smith OT) will be all copyright-legal. Taken 2007-03-10.

Got three people located within Israel in my currently-uploading list at once! None of them are downloading bible stuff though. A chinese person and a German is though. I my self have been downloading all of the stuff I could find on Mark Eastman, who pretty much quit ministering (apologetic / evangilizing to intellectuals) after quitting his partnership with Chuck Missler. Chuck Missler is very popular on eMule because his stuff is appealing to the paranoid / conspiracy / UFO audience. Taken 2007-03-10.

Look RIAA! I’m downloading craploads of Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5 and other sci-fi soundtracks in album-archives! At least two dozen. Taken 2007-03-08

I decided to put the New testament cannon and non-cannon into scripture-index zone-categories and defined the criteria for canon ‘black or white’ judgement line within the fuzzy-logic spectrum. It is based on the ‘Cross Reference Table: Writings and Authorities’ table at ntcannon.org.

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Canon
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The Ultimate
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Gospel according to Matthew
Gospel according to Luke
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Definitely Flawless
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Gospel according to Mark
Gospel according to John
Acts
Romans
I Corinthians
II Corinthians
Galatians
Ephesians
Philippians
Colossians
I Thessalonians
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Likely Flawless
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II Thessalonians
I Timothy
II Timothy
Titus
Philemon
I Peter
I John
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Has Blemishes
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Hebrews (9/11 accepted; 0/11 Heretical))
James (5/8 Accepted; 0/8 Heretical))
II Peter (4/6 Accepted; 0/6 Heretical))
Jude (8/9 Accepted; 0/9 Heretical))
Revelation of John (11/12 Accepted; 0/12 Heretical))
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Grey-Zone
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II John (5/8 accepted; 1/8 Heretical)
III John (4/7 accepted; 1/7 Heretical)

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Non-Cannon
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Grey-Zone
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I Clement (3/4 accepted; 0/4 heretical)
Epistle of Barnabas (3/5 accepted; 0/5 heretical)
Apocalypse of Peter (2/3 accepted; 0/3 heretical)
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Rejected
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Preaching of Peter (2/3 accepted; 1/3 heretical)
Didache (2/5 Accepted; 0/5 heretical)
Shepherd of Hermas (4/9 Accepted; 0/9 heretical)
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Bad / May be Heretical
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Gospel of Truth (1/2 Accepted; 1/2 Heretical)
Gospel of the Egyptians (1/2 accepted; 1/2 heretical)
Gospel of the Hebrews (1/3 accepted; 0/3 heretical)
Traditions of Matthias (1/1 Accepted; 0/1 heretical)
Epistle to the Laodiceans (0/2 accepted; 0/2 heretical))
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Likely to be Heretical
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Gospel of the Twelve (0/1 Accepted; 1/1 Heretical)
Gospel of Peter (0/2 accepted; 1/2 heretical)
Acts of Andrew (0/1 Accepted; 1/1 Heretical)
Acts of Paul (0/3 Accepted; 1/3 Heretical)
Acts of John (0/1 Accepted; 1/1 Heretical)
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Definitly Heretical
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Gospel of Thomas (0/2 Accepted; 2/2 Heretical)
Gospel of Basilides (0/2 Accepted; 2/2 Heretical)
Gospel of Matthias (0/2 Accepted; 2/2 Heretical)

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Observed pattern of cannon:

It appears that the hard ‘black or white’ line of judgement within the fuzzy logic spectrum for the NT cannon, within the scope of the table at the ntcannon.org site is:

So, basically, minimum of 51% ‘yes votes’ with a minimum of 6 total votes. 4/6, 4/7, 5/8, 5/9, 6/10 = ‘yes’; 3/3, 3/4, 4/5, 3/6, 3/7 = ‘no’

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Description of group categories:

Cannon; The Ultimate

100% marked as accepted excluding ‘Marcion and the Macionites’ (Marks nothing as fully accepted) covered by ALL (16) of the authorities in the table

cannon; Mostly Flawless

100% marked as accepted excluding ‘Marcion and the Macionites’ (Marks nothing as fully accepted). Covered by all-but-two to all-but-one (14-15) of the authorities in the table

cannon; Likely Flawless

100% marked as accepted excluding ‘Marcion and the Macionites’ (Marks nothing as fully accepted). Covered by at least half but less than all-but-two (8-13) of the authorities in the table

cannon; Some Minor Blemishes:

Most authorites marked as accepted. One or two of the authorities rated as questionable or spourious; No Authority marked the book as heretical

cannon; Grey-Zone

Most authorties marked as accepted, but exactly one authority marked the book as Heretical and two authorities marked the book as questionable

Non-cannon; Grey-Zone

Poor review coverage, but has at least 2 but less than 7 authorities have reviewed it; More than half of the authorities marked the book as accepted and no authority marked the book as heretical.

Non-Canon, Rejected

More than one authority reviewed the book and more than one and half or less of the authorties marked the book as accepted.

Non-Canon, Bad / May be Heretical

Less than two authorities marked the book as accepted. Exactly one authority marked the book as accepted or no authority marked the book as heretical.

Non-cannon; Likely to be Heretical

At least one authority marked the book as heretical and no authority marked the book as accepted.

Non-cannon; Definitly Heretical

Reviewed my more than one authority; Every reviewing authority marked the book as heretical.

Edit 2/27/2006 — Lots of changes in the non-cannon section. Spaced the very bad category. Changed most of the non-cannon categories’ criteria.

I like this blurb:

“God does not play dice with the Universe. Then again, Einstein never lived to see D&D”

Mix this with the randomness involved in Quantum Mechanics (which Einstein refused to accept), this statement is very true. Mix in the god games (SimCity, Civilization, Master of Orion; much randomness in their systems) with the D&D (Dungeons & Dragons; involves a lot of exotically shaped dice), and it is quite plausible for God to have a created universe that operates at it’s lowest level with systems of randomness that is still structured and balanced.

The Tyndale ‘Bible on CD’ Dramatized Audio Bible Old and New testaments, which is functionally equivilant of a non-DRM MP3 PC-only (and steroes than can read MP3-filled DVD-ROMs) version of Holy Bible: New Living Translation - New & Old Testament on DVD, is continuing to spread on Emule! 110-120 sources for the new testament, 100-110 sources for old testament. The original filename, and all versions of my filename are being drowned out by VeryCD’s filename, and Chinese (Both VeryCD and non-VeryCD users) and VeryCD mod (Emule mod made specifically for the Chinese language) users in other countries are 90% of the people in my upload queue for these two archives, so I guess don’t underestimate the usage and publicity of indexing sites like VeryCD (Emule) and Pirate Bay (BitTorrent; Also got Dead-Donkey and FuckTheInterNet, both ED2K sites). My Favorite GBA ROMs (122MB, only 24 ROMs, completely me-personal choice) and Area 51 2003 release is not on any indexing site, so I have >100 source releases (>400 for GBA ROMs) completely on my own without a full-broadband connection (VZW NationalAcess / BroadbandAccess). I also am the releaser of the Orbiter 2006 Edition (core and all non-redundant official-site optional add-ons) and that is at 60-70 sources, and this file is legal, not even gray.

Oh yeah for the paper bibles, the HardCover version of the NLT Life Application Bible (Tyndale) is $26.39 at Amzon.com, or you can buy them by the case (case of 12) at a unit cost of $19.20 at Bibles at Cost.

The Tyndale Dramatized NLT Audio Bible (’bible on CD’, ‘61 CDs’) got published on VeryCD, the Chinese ‘Pirate Bay‘ servicing the EDonkey (Emule) network, on 10/29/2006!

VeryCD caused the files to explode in popularity!! From 4-12 total sources and 1-4 complete sources for the old testament to 6-18 total sources and 3-8 complete sources for the new testament to 50-75 total sources and 25-35 complete sources for the old testament and 75-100 total sources and 35-50 complete sources for the new testament. I have been seeding them as a persistant permashare for a year and a half but I am not the actual releaser though, but their were at least two instances that I know that my seeding prevented the old testament dying on the network (0 complete sources for more than a few days straight.

The person who submitted this to VeryCD is advertising the fact that these archives, unpacked, will fit snugly on a single DVD!! With 30-50 megs the spare for several PDF bible translations. Now this is what you call flooding China (and Chinese abroad, and the rest of the world) with the word of God (despite organized religion being illegal in China and massive copyright violations)!!

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I added the old testament to my alienware’s download list at the hotel in Safford (because the HD partition didn’t have room to store & share it) to verify its chinese demographics on 2006-11-11:

All the chinese in my Upload Queue 2006-11-11

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Upload Queue full of chinese (and chinese abroad, marked by the VeryCD tag in the User Name) at home on my Dell after I got home from Safford 2006-11-13, sorted by File, Score, Country

Upload Queue full of chinese (and chinese abroad, marked by the VeryCD tag in the User Name) at home on my Dell after I got home from Safford 2006-11-13, sorted by File, Country, Score

Emule Servers (Lugdunum eserver) inside China (Chinese IP Addresses)

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Here are ED2K Links to Tyndale Bible on CD Dramatized NLT Audio Bible as Presented by VeryCD (AICH but no full hashset):

Here are ED2K Links to Tyndale Bible on CD Dramatized NLT Audio Bible with the filenames AICH hash and full hash set from my own shares:

Here are ED2K Links to Tyndale Bible on CD Dramatized NLT Audio Bible with the filenames as they were when I downloaded it from Emule myself a year and a half ago (I did not repeat the full hash-set so use the two above):

In the last month or two, the New Living Translation (NLT), NIV, and NASB was pulled from Biiible.com. Looks like the copyright mafia are in the bible world too. I’m surprised they still have the Amplified bible (AMP). The NLT is not available on Gospelcom.net also. Probably unfair royalty demands.

Gospelcom.net Bible Gateway (Can afford royalties for AMP, NASB, MSG, but no NLT )

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I have these 3 translations and the other 13 remaining translations (+apocrypha) shared on Emule P2P!! Available in PDF, DOC, RTF, and TXT. I created the RTF and TXT versions myself off of the DOC version. They have been up on the ED2K network for over a year. The Audio bible NLT and NIV PDFs were up already (I got the audio bible from Emule; didn’t rip myself, but I am the one of the most reliable seeds) but I am the effective releaser for all the other translations for PDF and all of them for the PDF combo-archives, DOC, RTF, TXT, and Java (Both single and combo).

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You can still get to the ‘removed versions’ on Biiible.com. You just have to hack the querystring (you have to re-hack with each new search).

from
http://www.biiible.com/dispchapt.php?instring=Revelation%2011&ver=NKJV&book=Revelation&chapter=11
to
http://www.biiible.com/dispchapt.php?instring=Revelation%2011&ver=LOT&book=Revelation&chapter=11

or

from
http://www.biiible.com/searchresults.php?begin=0&instring=take+heaven&ver=NKJV&lookin=
to
http://www.biiible.com/searchresults.php?begin=0&instring=take+heaven&ver=NLT&lookin=

The Querystring to hack is ver=[xxx] where that is one of the elements of the set (AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT). NLT, NIV, NASB are the ones that got removed. For both of these exmamples, the only thing being changed is ver=NKJV to ver=NLT

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These two links has a survey of several english translations - descriptions, opinions, copyright status.

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Here is my summary of the translation survey

Copyrighted with permission request for bulk distribution or large-audiance hosting granted only when backed by dollars and red-tape (Only AMP remains on Biiible.com and they supposedly have the most viscous copyright lawyers):

Copyrighted (KJV21, NAB, NJV21 are hosted by Biiible.com and they may loose them along with AMP soon)

Public Domain (Biiible.com has all but Weymouth; JohnHurt.com has all of them but no search)

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Here are my Direct Download links for the composite archives for biiible.com and johnhurt.com’s bible content and some other bible sources.

• Religion Holy Christian Church - Bible - New Living Translation NLT - Text files by Chapter in Directories by Book rar - 933K
• Religion Holy Christian Church - Bible Combo - English - By Pm Microsoft MS Access MDB - NKJV AMP NIV NLT MSG KJV rar - 5MB

• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus - Bible TXT - Danish 2 Trans _ Dutch _ Finnish _ German rar - 6MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus - Bible TXT - Greek New Testament _ Hebrew Old Testament _ Greek Septuagint Orthodox OT rar - 3 5MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus - Bible TXT - Indonesian - Bahasa Indonesia _ baru _ lama rar - 2 5MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus - Bible TXT - Spanish - Escrituras _ Valera rar - 3 5MB

• Biiible Cafe - Full Biible com search site offline - Java - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Cross-References rar - 23MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible Ultimate Collection DOC - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Apocrypha rar - 18 5MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible Ultimate Collection RTF - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Apocrypha rar - 13MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible Ultimate Collection TXT - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Apocrypha rar - 13MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible Ultimate Collection PDF - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Apocrypha rar - 93MB

• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible - JohnHurt com HTMLBible Collection - 10 English _ 30 Non-English _ 3 Extra _ 43 html Web Hostable Bibles rar - 41MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 10 English html Web Hostable Bibles rar - 11 5MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 10 Latin_Hebrew_Afri_Misc Language htm Web Hostable Bibles rar - 6MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 5 West Europe _ Scand Language html Web Hostable Bibles rar - 8MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 6 Asian Language html Web Hostable Bibles rar - 6MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 9 East Europe _ Russian Language html Web Hostable Bibles rar - 8 5MB
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - KJV Apocrypha _ 2 Extra html Web Hostable Bible Texts rar - 1 5MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com SpeedBible Collection - 10 English _ 32 Non-English _ 4 Extra _ 46 chm Bibles rar - 114MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 10 English Translation chm Bibles rar - 28 5MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 10 Latin_Hebrew_Afri_Misc Language chm Bibles rar - 19MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 6 Asian Language chm Bibles rar - 14 5MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 7 West Europe _ Scand Language chm Bibles rar - 22 5MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 9 East Europe _ Russian Language chm Bibles rar - 26MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - KJV Apocrypha _ 3 Extra chm Bible Texts rar - 5 5MB
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt com - MS Access Database Bible Public Domain Collection - KJV ASV YLT rar - 3MB

Here are the ED2K links (for Emule) for the composite archives for biiible.com and johnhurt.com’s bible content plus the Tyndale Audio Bible and some other bible sources.

• Religion Holy Christian Church ??????? ??????? ????? ?????? ?????- - Bible Combo - English - By Pm Microsoft MS Access MDB - NKJV AMP NIV NLT MSG KJV.rar

• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus - Bible TXT - Danish (2 Trans) + Dutch + Finnish + German.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus - Bible TXT - Greek New Testament + Hebrew Old Testament + Greek Septuagint (Orthodox OT).rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus - Bible TXT - Indonesian - Bahasa Indonesia + baru + lama.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus - Bible TXT - Spanish - Escrituras + Valera.rar

• Religion Holy Christian Church - Biiible Cafe Java Bible search - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT CrRefs.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible Ultimate Collection DOC - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Apocrypha.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible Ultimate Collection PDF - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Apocrypha.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible Ultimate Collection RTF - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Apocrypha.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible Ultimate Collection TXT - AMP ASV BBE DARBY DRB KJ21 KJV KJVSP NAB NASB NIV NKJV NLT WBST WEB YLT Apocrypha.rar

• Religion Holy Spirit Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com SpeedBible Collection - 10 English + 32 Non-English + 4 Extra = 46 .chm Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 10 English Translation .chm Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 10 Latin_Hebrew_Afri_Misc Language .chm Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 6 Asian Language .chm Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 7 West Europe + Scand Language .chm Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - 9 East Europe + Russian Language .chm Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com SpeedBible Sub-Collection - KJV Apocrypha + 3 ‘Extra’ .chm Bible Texts.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Bible - JohnHurt.com HTMLBible Collection - 10 English + 30 Non-English + 3 Extra = 43 .html (Web Hostable) Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 10 English .html (Web Hostable) Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 10 Latin_Hebrew_Afri_Misc Language .htm (Web Hostable) Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 5 West Europe + Scand Language .html (Web Hostable) Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 6 Asian Language .html (Web Hostable) Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - 9 East Europe + Russian Language .html (Web Hostable) Bibles.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com HTMLBible Sub-Collection - KJV Apocrypha + 2 ‘Extra’ .html (Web Hostable) Bible Texts.rar
• Religion Holy Spirit Ghost Christian Church Jesus Bible - JohnHurt.com - MS Access Database Bible Public Domain Collection - KJV ASV YLT.rar

• Religion Holy Christian Church - Audio Bible - New Living Translation NLT - New Testament - Mp3.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church - Audio Bible - New Living Translation NLT - Old Testament - Mp3.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church - Bible Fonts - Hebrew Greek Aramaic.rar
• Religion Holy Christian Church ??????? ??????? ????? ?????? ?????- - KJV RSV NIV NLT Hebrew Greek - Bible Commentary Dictionary 54,000 words.rar