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Here’s some Trinity / Millennial view / Eschatology / Dispensation chart pictures that I got off of the internet. Three of them are redundant with another post but wanted to include them here anyway because I like them. The biggest, most complicated picture that mentions sheol (Abraham’s Bosem) / hades is from a page titled Where do we go when we die? (Bible verses quoted). It is pre-millienial but is egalitarian in regards to pre/mid/post trib rapture. I havn’t found strong, good-context, encyclopedic / literal bible support on determining when the rapture is to occur (just that it will, and the exact time is unknown) and whether there is going to be a separate, limited-visibility ‘coming 1.5′ for the sole purpose of rapturing the church. I still favor pre-trib rapture because it simply feels good, has a lot of indirect ‘credit-history’ type bible support (God bringing out the few righteous people before commencing with destructive judgement), and it is what i’ve been and being taught at church, but I feel that have to remain open-minded for any other possible scenario. I think there should be a better marker of the flow of the saved after the descent from heaven for the millenial rule to the new heaven/new earth. The dispensation diagrams are pre-trib rapture / pre-millennial. I don’t support amillennialism or postmillennialism at all. Clickable thumbnails (click to get full-size view):

As for the Trinity, I know two man-made concrete example and 1 biblical example. The biblical word is (I’m remembering somebody teaching me I didn’t get it from the Bible myself): Father=Thought / will that will cause the word to be spoken, Son=God’s word as it is being spoken, Holy Spirit=God’s spoken word spreading out in all directions. The concrete examples are Father=MainFrame or Power Plant, Son=Firewall / Router or Transformer / Power Conditioner, and Holy Spirit=The network / internet or power transmission lines. The two man-made examples make the trinity look like a system (godhead) / subsystem (trinity components) concept and is compatible with the picture. The biblical example is more ambigous but appears more like computing processing & output stages (the human brain is an organic analog neural-net computer) — Processing (thought, software crunching), Output (mouth, hand gestures, speakers, screen, NIC card, network gateway/router), Transmission (traveling light or sound waves, traveling electronic signals). This view doesn’t match the diagram picture well.

Update 2007-04-27 — Changed timeline chart change suggestion.

I’m exploring christian metal music. I found artisits I might like using the wikipedia as a guide. Of these, I found full discography archives for Mortification and Disciple. Found album archives for a few others. Other artists I found only individual MP3s. I couldn’t find anything for Echo Hollow (labelled as Thrash on wikipedia). I like Thrash, Groove, and Nu-Metal mostly and like Industria & progressive metal a little bit. If I like an artist enough, i’ll buy one or more legit albums. If i like one a really really alot (like Soulfly / Max Cavalera) I may buy the whole discography (likely at least 4-8 months from now). If it is half-chrisitan (mixed lyrics or fully christian but scripturally incorrect), then I will just remain content with Soulfly because many songs in his first 3 albums are half-christian (Primitive - FlyHigh is Soulfly’s only fully christian, not scripturally incorrect song). There are also two ‘not applicable’ people downloading biblical material. They may be people in high censorship countries using black-market connections (which often use hijacked but likely dormant IP addresses). I got my 3 Terabytes of external storage (actually 1.5 TB becuase of mirroring; 4 500 GB + 2 250 GB + 2 already-own 250 GB), so I’m scarfing down the rest of the Chuck Missler stuff also. I also have a total of 1280GB of portable laptop-drive storage - 4 x 160GB + 8 x 80GB of which 3 soon to be 5 80GB drives installed into a machine). I also got all my DVDs consolidated (a whopping 300GB!). There is also a lot of worldwide inter-continental diversity in the currently-uploading panel, including Iran, Viet Nam, and Serbia & Montenegro. Click on thumbnail for full 1600×1200 pic. Screenie taken 2007-04-20.

I’m sharing Chuck Smith’s (Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa) c2000 bible study sermon series. They don’t seem to be very attractive. An american downloaded about 150MB and quit. 2 brazillians appear to scarfing them down whole though. Hopefully they’ll keep seeding the files for a (long) while after finishing, maybe even perma-share them. Click on thumbnail for full 1600×1200 pic. Screenie taken 2007-04-06.

For most of 2007, at least 75% of people with chinese IP Addresses in my upload queue are requesting bible / christian material. I hope they keep it up. Get more of the word of god into the illegal but word-preaching house-churches rather than the worthless catholic deriviative denomination (the only legal christian denomination in China) that is flooded with false propaganda. Most of the traffic is probably well-off individuals thinking just like us americans though - getting commercial product for free - in this case the Dramatized NLT Bible on CD package that got indexed by VeryCD in late 2006. This screenie got lost in limbo for while but I found it and remembered about the week before last. Click on thumbnail for full 1600×1200 pic. Screenie taken 2007-03-19.

Chiese person downloading the great tongue-a-rama. A 2nd chinese person is downloading the Biiible.com ultimate collection in RTF (rich-text-format / Windows-Wordpad). Click on thumbnail for full 1600×1200 pic. Screenie taken 2007-03-19.

The King James Version of the Bible ( KJV / AV / Authorized Version ) IS Copyrighted, but only in the UK (United Kingdom — England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland). Crown Copyright is rejected in international treates (probably because it is ‘life of the british goverment + 50 years’) so it didn’t virally spread to the rest of the world. Plus the crown patent / copyright is probably not enforced much within the UK, at least for the KJV, at least with digital copying, general use, and quotation in print text.

The ultimate in a no-name site. Go to the home page and you cannot get to this translation comparison page. I found it via google This looks like a good comparison of translations. The whole directory is unlinked. But the server allows viewing of directories. So if you want to check out other stuff remove the ‘compare.htm’ from the url — http://www3.pei.sympatico.ca/reese.currie/topics/ . I havn’t read any of it yet though.

The comparison is simple. 12 often disputed or altered verses in 4 categories are compered: Integrity of the trinity (John 1:1-4, Zechariah 12:10, John 14:26 and Genesis 1:2), facets of repentace (Mark 1:15, Luke 24:45-47, Matthew 21:32, and 2 Timothy 2:25), not imposing ‘baptismal regeneration’ (Acts 2:38, Mark 1:4 and Romans 6:4), and the role of destiny in salvation (Acts 13:48). The translations are rated and commented by the integrity of these 12 verses. Translates that doctrinally distort or just mis-translate one or more verses get docked points. Only a perfect score is reccomended. Anything with less than a 50% score is considered garbage.

The recommended versions are ASV, ALT, KJV, LV, NASB, NKJV, and WEB. The KJV and ASV are marked ‘recommended with reservations’ because of the archaic elizibethian english. The ASV and WEB are fully public domain. The KJV is public domain everwhere but the UK. ALT, LV, and NKJV are copyrighted, but it is feasable to obtain permission for non-commercial, non-profit copying without royalties or excessive red-tape. The NASB is tyrannically copyrighted - expect legal red tape and/or payment of royalties if you care about being legal.

The not recommended but not throw-away books are the BBE, DRB, NIV, NLT, and NRSV. The BBE, NIV and NRSV are accused of at least some theological / doctrinal influence. The NLT is acquitted by the incompetancy (high standards here! which makes sense for the word of god) of the translaters. The DRB has two blemishes reported (83% score). NIV and NLT are tyrannically copyrighted. CEV, NWT (Jehova’s witness), and TEV are evaluated as ‘throw it in the garbage’.

The page was uploaded and/or modified 2004. Translations that I know well enough to know the name and were not reviewed are AMP, MSG, TNIV, ESV, ISV, NET, DARBY, NAB, KJV21, WBST, WNT, and YLT. I think the World English bible rocks. I vote for WEB. And the WEB is the only public domain (I would acept copyleft too) translation that is ‘highly recommended’ by this site, without reservation due to archaic english!

The American Heart Association ‘Natural History of Hypertension Subtypes’ article says that cardiovascular disease risk starts at 115/75, which is probably why the pre-hypertensive category got added and starts at 120/80.

The Medscape site has a new term - Mean blood pressure. It is roughly estimated at Diastolic Blood pressure + 1/3 of pulse pressure. It is the most correlated with stroke. Though the article is focused in telling doctors not to ignore ISH (isolated systolic hypertension) in people over 50, it, by accident, is also telling doctors not to ignore IDH (isolated diastolic hypertension) as it raises the mean blood pressure (DP+1/3*PP). Combining with the AHA Hypertension Subtypes article, risk of cornary artery disease is still present because IDH is likely to turn into SDH (systo-dialstolic hypertension) over time, which is a big risk factor of conary artery disease.

I read these because my mom is paranoid about my blood pressure, but is focusing her paranoia on the bottom (diastolic) number. My mom has 4 stented cornary arteries (over two emergency room visits with chest angina), and 100%/70% occluded carotid arteris (moderate language-area stroke with high-recovery). I have a crusing (at home, low stress, usually night-time) BP of 118/78 to 125/85 that sometimes elevates to 130/80-90 to 135/90-95 (intermittent mornings or moderate stress) and peaks at 140/100 (traveling or high-stress). My absolute highest reading was 142/105, but I’ve had a few (5-10) isolated readings of 135-140 over 95-100. My pulse pressure (difference between the high / systolic and low / diastolic numbers) is usually 40-45, but intermittently it can be as high as 50 or as low as 35.

Overall i am pre-hypertension with intermittant elevation into isolated diastolic stage-1 hypertension (ISH-1 is >=140/<90; IDH-1 is <140/>=90; SDH-1 is >=140/>=90) and uncommon elevations into SDH-1/IDH-2. I do have a high resting heart rate in the low-to-mid 80s which means I don’t get enough excercise. My cholesterol is borderline-high (210-225), slightly higher than my father’s (190-210; My father’s genetic baseline with a worse diet). My mother had (before drugs) cholesterol was over 250 and my sister (smoker+recovering alcoholic) is over 300. My mother’s BP was really high all her life. She is normalized with drugs but is probably very dependant on them now because if she misses more than 1 consecutive dose, it turns 200+/something (<100 i think). I hope I have my father’s genetics in regards to BP (excluding stress sensitivity) in addition to cholesterol. The non-alcholic members of my father’s side of the family all have lived a long time, and even the alchoholics get into their 60s (and still drinking).? My father’s-side grandfather will probably outlive my mother and is is my only currently-living grandparent.

Uncyclopedia is supposed to be humorous. People are referred to Uncyclopedia when humorous noobs vandalize Wikipedia articles with non-encyclopedic humor, especially when it is genuinely funny. These are a little humorous but are more rebellion and rejection than anything else. It represents a chunk of the agnostic unbelievers. It may be good for witnessing strategy refinement.

The GOD v2.01 BETA section of the God Article IS funny and less blasphemous (but still somewhat is).

‘Church of God’ is actually many denominations that don’t even all belong to a single protestant demoninational category (pentacostal, baptist, evangilical etc). Wayne Blank attends a ‘Biblical Church of God’ which belongs to a denominational/belief group category called ‘Sabbatarian’. Seventh-Day Adventist belongs to this category also. ‘Church of Christ’ appears to be a single denomination and have nothing to do with ‘Church of God’. At the young adult’s ministry meeting last saturday, Churches of Christ was labelled ‘post-millenial’. They are actually ‘a-millenial’ with a few rogue (in reference to their denomination) pre-millenial congregations. I see little scruptural basis of amillenialism unless the interpretation is almost wholly symbolic. The fuffilment of prophecy on the messiah (Jesus) appears to me to be at least 2/3-3/4 (65-75%) literal with some symbolic (remaining 1/4-1/3 / 25-35%) due to the heavy use of metaphores. So I personally reject purely symbolic interpretations (Amillenial, postmillenial, mid-trib rapture premillenial are all primarily symbolic interpretation).

Calvary Chapel is wholly premillenial with pre-tribulation rapture. Fits really nice in the appropriate eschatological belief category in the ‘Summary of Christian eschatological differences’ wikipedia article. My teenage-years church, Christian Faith Fellowship (Middletown, NY) belongs to this category too. I would be clearly in this category if the BibleStudy.org and keyway.ca Online Bible Study site’s scripture backing were not as good as they are. Now I am in a confusion state between the ‘immediate heaven/hell afterlife; pre-tirbulation rapture; pre-millenialism’ vs ’soul-sleep until the first (christians) or second ressurection (no oppty to accept/reject christ); post-tribulation transfiguration-only (no rapture); premillenial’. Soul-Sllep / No Rapture / Ressurection-only doesn’t fit the big-4 millenial teaching categories. To make the confustion worse, neither Calvary Chapel nor CFF appear to pay much attention to people who never heard of christ (Ancient chinese; Mayas; pre-invasion Incas/aztecs). The Great White throne of judgement / 2nd ressurection seems completelly plausible for this group of people, considering that God doesn’t want anyone to perish, but just grabbing something from Ezekial or Isaiah and connecting it up doesn’t seem logically right, but then again, I’m not good at logic proofs (Brian Sugrim is though; I’m good at out-of-the box comparisons, combining/splicing/merging, and pattern-matching though).

Soul-sleep is supported by both Seventh-Day Adventists, and Jehova’s Witnesses. These two groups have a lot of other very un-scriptual or overly-symbolic beliefs. However, Wayne Blank (keyway.ca - Biblical Church of God), Kieth Hunt (articles in BibleStudy.org) and Garner Ted Armstrong (Biblestudy.org articles, witness/character blemished by sexual immorality though), also seem to be soul-sleep (psychopannychism; both 2nd coming & last judgement) post-trib ressurection-only no-rapture, and have demonstrade pretty good and in-context scrpture backing. Also, on a personal simulation, If I went to heaven immediately upon death (or got raptured), gotten spoiled by the paradise, and then have to be dragged back to this boring old drab earth, I’d probably be quite resistant in going back and would probably be quite stubborn without serious threat (jail, torture or serious flogging, death) or very strong peer pressure (best friend and everybody else I like wants to go assuming I successfuly develop much friendship). Many other lukewarm / low-obediance christians (probably 70-80% of all american christians though my church seems only 35-50% lukewarm which is a good influence on me) probably would also not like having to move back to earth after the tribulation ends. I’d actually be worse because I don’t follow VIPs, worse authority-figure VIPs unless I actually want to be friends with them, while many other lukewarms would eagerly follow a VIP that they hardly know).

I would like to resolve the confusion. Purely within the Bible, in a way that would satisfy even the worst proof-freek (excluding illegal logic faith-assumptions that the bible itself is 100% undeniably true) would be made to agree (things proven logically via proof and scientific method tend to not be disputed or confused as much), despite me being not good at proofs (and worse, I can be very content with ‘plausible’). I may be and may always be a lukewarm christian in terms of relationship and obediance, but at least I want more understanding of the word of god, though my motivation is primarily removing fear of the future via removing ignorance (my mother is the opposite - she prefers to be ignorant) and general intellectual greed (greed for knowledge). I also always have liked ’superpowers’ (Danial, Gospels, Acts; I like flight, beam weapons, shields, and telekinesis while Rick & Erik favored more brute-force fist-of-the-north-star style) and I liked the notion of being drunk under the holy spirit (CFF at camps or occasional post-service favoring mid-week; not Calvary Chapel; no dog barking or snake handling though; plenty of toungues and falling-back though). These two parts along with the ‘free-ride salvation’ system of the New testament are the 3 main reasons that I became a christian. But don’t try to use those to manipulate me into false teachings though. If it ain’t in the bible, then you have the burden of the proper application scientific method (no stopping at the hypothisis stage and being content with theories). And even then, If its too much work or suffering, I probably still won’t care. This probably does make me manipulatable via laziness (I only overcome laziness well with strong motivation, autistic-obsession or survival-instinct amplified motivation, or team/tandom-coupled motivations) , fear of change, and contentment which is probably what the devil uses on me now because it is what currently works, at least for pacification and negligence purposes. I probably should get better with that. The best leverage for me is passive-environmental (environmental role-model) and passive-direct (personal role-model) peer pressure by environments and/or people I respect. That’s my main motivation for going to church other than emotional & intellectual ammusement and freebie-pampering.

Here’s some Millenial view / dispensation chart pictures that I got off of the internet. The dispensation diagrams are pre-trib rapture / pre-millenial. Clickable thumbnails (click to get full-size view):